Oh you read that shit right… Papa Mitch is tackling my generations big conspiracy theory, and the perspectives on both sides.
I first heard about the different theories on what happened September 11th 2001 when I was in college in the fall of 2005. Another college filmmaker like myself living in New York had the idea of making a fictional film that the 911 attacks were engineered by the United States itself. Once they started researching for the writing of the movie they said the information they found was so disturbing and unusual they went from fiction, to non-fiction. Firmly believing they stumbled upon information that 911 was an inside job they were some of the pioneers of the 911 truth movement which has really spawned a gigantic following online.
If your curious about Dylans film, feel free to check out his site. His film and site include more facts than I can remember about the 911 attacks. http://www.loosechange911.com/
To me the 911 truth movement was very thought provoking in 2005 before it became more main stream. Then
things the movement began saying were almost completely circumstantial and hearsay. ‘A pod came off the plane as it crashed’ which quickly was disbanded and edited out of Dylans documentary. Or certain politicians were notified not to fly on September 11th because of a possible terrorist attack (they say this with no proof but online articles). Yet some things they stumbled upon were definitely scary. News footage from the day of 911 had multiple people saying they heard explosions before the collapse of the world trade center towers, multiple news anchors flat out stated ‘Explosions have been reported from inside the twin towers’. The pentagon airplane crash is just a big hole with no marks from a planes tail section, or wings, or engines, with almost no plane wreckage. Looking, and seeming almost exactly like a missile impact. The plane crash in Pennsylvania left literally no debris, vaporizing the plane. By the way, a plane has never ‘vaporized’ upon an impact with the earth leavin no bodies, or debris except this one time. These aren’t just things people in ‘the movement’ have said or pushed forward in their agenda, they are just facts sitting right in front of your face.
Does some of this info say without a doubt the US, or other secret organization attacked itself to push forward monumental change in foreign and domestic policies? I can honestly say I don’t know. I cant say yes, but in good conscience cant say no either. There are way too many coincidences, and way too many perfectly executed reactions to 911. There are records and proof that massive amounts of put-options were purchased a week before 911 on several different airlines. A put-option is basically a stock purchase saying a company is going to have massive losses, and business difficulties. The owner of the World Trade Center also took out a massive insurance policy on the towers just weeks before specifically covering terrorist attacks. These things are readily available to view as part of public domain, and the coincidences are fucking insane.
So the question is, what the hell happened on 9-11? I wont pretend to know… But what I do know is that things don’t add up, and there are too many ‘coincidences’. Just because Im undetermined on what happened doesn’t mean I believe every psychotic crackpot conspiracy theory. Which is what many media outlets want people to believe for some reason. Anyone that questioned 911 soon after the attacks was anti-American… Anyone that questioned 911 a few years after was a rebel, and stumbling upon massive amounts of unusual information. NOW, you’re a fucking whack job. People are displayed as whackos with schizophrenia or something because they question the actual story. Im not out there in peoples faces screaming CONSPIRACY.. I simply question the hole-filled story we were given.
There are many people capitalizing on the Truth movement and writing articles, making films, organizing protests etc and for some reason they are overly aggressive, and sound dumb. Its almost like its staged at times… But if you do get curious and try to wade through all the bullshit that’s come out the past couple years, you find facts that really make you think.
The Discovery Channel and History Channel have both aired different specials taking on the 911 conspiracy theorists and their ideas. After knit picking out certain aspects of truth movement beliefs, they disproved multiple ideas, and oddly enough everything they happened to choose was disproved. Yet they didn’t tackle every fact or bit of information, merely the science of the attacks. Like the jet fuel heat, the freefall of the towers, etc.
I like to get all the information I can with something this huge, but we have only scraped the surface. The JFK assassination is all but true in most peoples eyes… I have a feeling 911 may develop into its own folklore.
Tell me what you think… what are your thoughts? Is it all bullshit? If so, why? You have more to add?
great article man!! ive been reading into this stuff for a few years now, and i must admit some thing doesnt add up!!!!! theres really nothing we as citizens can do about it. Most chose to not even care and just beleave what the local news station feeds us.
Jeez, that documentary thing is scary. But I guess thats what theyre going for when you make a movie about your own government killing the citizens its suposed to protect. Eye opening article Mitch
I’m not one to read conspiracy theories but this is a great post! Lots of info I didn’t know about here, like the insurance policy on WTT and put-options…
When presented like a normal & rational human being this 911 stuff is a lot easier to digest. But when those extremist idiots tell me my drinking water has mind controlling properties right before going into the 911 conspiracy its hard to listen lol.
This is really interesting though and makes me want to know more.
This was pretty much a pointless article.
Meh. I’m not buyin it. If the U.S. set somethin like this up we would be fuckin awesome at it and nobody would find out.
Shoot a missile into our PENTAGON, try to call it a plane and hope people don’t look into it? I don’t think so.
So movies have been made about attacking yourself to stregthen a governments grip on its people, secret documents prove its been done in the past, books have been written. The idea is not new, and the premise fits pretty damn smooth to 911. I cant prove it, and noone else has done it yet, so Im just going to keep enjoying being fat and free in the US until somebody proves it.
Although I guess I wont be free long if this is all a conspiracy. I swear to go if people start getting microchipped, then the conspiracy nuts were right.
That was a great article!Very interesting to read about, you are a great writer. You should add some more about this, I would love to read more!
honestly? are you serious buddy?
no their is nothing going on behind the scenes with 9-11. anywho who thinks different is a whack-o. Now i’m not saying that we know the full truth as to what happened. I don’t think anyone will. No matter how many “sit-in’s” or “truth rally’s” you hold. However the truth that we don’t know is all stuff that holds no meaning to the actual attacks.
The government isn’t behind ANYTHING, having to do with 9-11. Nor does it have anything to do with a cover up.
Jesus.. it was something that happened almost 10 years ago, i was hoping that this whole money making… er “truth telling” nonsense would be long gone by know.
All this is about is people not wanting to believe that other human beings could be so cold and heartless as to purposly set out to do something like this.
People, accept it, stop hiding behind the nuts.
Obviously Kevin knows nothing and should be raped or beaten.. probably both.
If you had watched loose change youd know the TRUTH Kevin.. ITS THE TRUTH! Did you also know that ninjas are the ones really responsible for the JFK assassination, and the jews and freemasons currently make all important global decisions?
See, kevins a dumb idiot.
I beleive 9-11 was an inside job. A flaseflag attack to promote the agenda of a one world communist dictatorship. We as Americans cannot fatom that some people actual despise our freedom. But Americans dont know what makes us free. That is our Constitution, The Bill of Right’s.The first 10 amendments that strickly express the powers of the Federal government.After 9-11 we were giving the PATRIOT ACT 1 & 2. Which strips Americans of their constitutional rights. To think of 9-11 as a black and white issue, you would be mistaken. This is a complex issue with more then one or two agendas. I wish I were wrong and “Al-Queda” was solely responsible. But the more I look at the information given to the people of the world. The more I see the cover-up.
Like the BBC reporting 4 of the 19 hijackers still alive and kicking on sept. 23 2001.WTF???? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1559151.stm
Or the ny port authority blocking the transmisstions of firefighters on 9-11. One of them heard here … http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5370850808525003436#
Or VP Dick Cheeny ordering a stand down on the “plane” that hit the pentagon…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDfdOwt2v3Y
Now what about World trade center 7 if you havent heard or need a little more information read Prof. Steven Jones formerly of BYU peer reveiwed article on Why indeed did WTC 7 fall? http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse.pdf
Now that was just a taste of information Iv run across in my time spent looking into 9-11. There is more, alot more! But iv decided to keep it short. When someone says there is nothing you can do about 9-11. then they have already lost. You must educate yourself on life liberty and pursute of happiness. You must know what makes us free. You must believe in your heart that you are special and you have a right to freedom. This attack was more then a physical attack. Its a psycological attack on our minds. We can no longer look to government as our savior. We must look within ourselves! The problems that face America in a post 9-11 world is that of collectivism vs individualism. As explaned by G. Edward Griffin http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6276223916862531753#
Thanks to anyone who took the time to read the article and this comment post. Hopefully we can have a civil conversation without the name calling idiocracy. That comes from being insecure in one’s own ideology.
hey kevin!! hows life being a tool going? great? good to hear!!
and MR. “When someone says there is nothing you can do about 9-11. then they have already lost.”
there is nothing ONE person can do, we would need a revolution to do this, and since there are people as ignorant as kevin in our country, well… that says it all……
One person cannot have a revolution …. But one person can promote an ideology that causes revolution. To shut down and say one cannot do anything so I am not even going to try. Would be losing. Losing time and energy promoting ideology that creates Revolution…Understand the political structure of todays America and break free from the tyranny of the two party dictatorship. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bF6Dt7SS_yw
I know Lou personally and would donate a leg for him/you cause I love him/you…… but you/he’s trippin!
Most people are pretty much ride or die when it comes to this topic, so it’s obv bound to get heated.
But as I stated before……..
It’s not that I think the U.S. is “above” doing something as low as this, it’s just that I think we’re smart enough to cover it up better had it been a conspiracy.
This woulda gone through years of planning ect. before it all went down. They could have imagined people being suspicious and researching it further through individuals and organizations right? I can’t imagine them having such simple details missing such as the missing wings or whatever in the pentagon crash…? I doubt were dumb enough to shoot a bomb into something while claiming terrorist attacks, and not expect the crash site to be thoroughly inspected.
TBH I haven’t studied up on it as much as one should to make a solid argument………. but that’s my feelings on it givin what I know.
Oh and don’t hate on Kevin He’s the man.
It’s only right we disagree right? We never agree on a poker hand. lol
I used to think like that big Wes, America is so legit and advanced they could do anything and nobody would be the wiser. Then I realized, the ENTIRE US government couldnt just agree to do something this fucked up… the south park episode was pretty funny with the government trying to push the conspiracy idea to make it look like the government was all powerful…
But the fact is it would just be a small piece of certain groups or individuals that may be part of it.
But Im concentrating purely on it being the US government, I dont know that. What I do know… is that shit IS being covered up. Simply because so many things dont add up with facts. Not just common sense, but facts and information that is readily available.
Im not going to spew out opinions and circumstantial evidence.. What I do know is that no airplane, IN HISTORY, has ever crashed and completely vaporized along with all passengers, except in Pennsylvania on 911… every single security camera within 4 or 5 miles of the pentagon was confiscated within a half hour of the pentagon attack, including hotels/gas stations etc therefore there is no available videotape except 3 frames of a parking camera, that doesnt even show a plane… Theres so much more out there, but its hard to wade through the bullshit, and the facts are freaky.
Does this mean the US attacked itself… No, I have to concede that. But Im positive it means that things were covered up.
^^^ great post mitch!
wes, u know i love u too hommie hahahha
hey kev my bad for poping shit, but you should really look into this stuff, a lot of things just dont add up….
When people say “conspiracy” it’s got a whole connotation to it that insinuates some set-up of sorts. But TBH there prolly are things the government is keeping from us. Some people launched a successful terrorist attack on our country. When it’s a matter of national security it’s different than anything else IMO. Why inform other terrorist exactly how others have effed us in the A in the past?
Honestly this convo has got me more interested cause I want some real info to make a good argument! lol but like I said this is just my thoughts on it from what I hear on T.V. ect.
Oh……. way to be current MITCH!
thats ok Lou, no need to say sorry. someone has to drink the kool-aid, i’ve passed on it for long enough, you can finish the rest. Let me know what it’s like riding unicorns and having dragons fly out of your ass.